Showing posts with label Disney Pin Trading. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Disney Pin Trading. Show all posts

Sunday, November 25, 2012

Pin Shark Feeding Frenzy ~ How Disneyland Blew It . . . Again!


Pin Shark Feeding Frenzy ~
How Disneyland Blew It . . . Again!



Once again Disneyland lost control of the pin situation. The stated rules for the Piece of the Movie monthly pin are wristband handed out at 7 am day of release and no lining up before 6 am. 2 pins per person.

First off the release date for this highly prized pin was originally set for Thanksgiving Day then moved to the Friday after Thanksgiving. This is one of the busiest days in the parks. Last year they moved the release date to the 3rd Thursday from the 4th Thursday to keep it away from Thanksgiving.

Second mistake was not doing something about the people that broke the rules and started lining up for the wristbands at 5 pm Thanksgiving Day! Disney Cast Members say they tried to chase them off but they kept coming back. By 10 pm Disney gave up chasing them away and the line grew! Very few people that got in line after 6 am got pins.

Within a couple of hours of the pins going up for sale they were on e-Bay going for $100-$500 per pin! One seller had 4 pins to sell. Wait the limit is 2 per person how could they have 4?

Now how could Disney handled the situation differently?
1.     The Downtown Disney area is NOT public property it is Disney property. They can shut it down and make people leave if they so choose.
2.    When people refuse to leave say thank you for your interest in the wonderful pin. Here is your wristband. When they come back they are told, “You broke the rules by lining up way to early. You are not allowed to attempt to purchase a pin until all those that got wristbands following the rules have made their purchases. In other words come back after 1 pm.
3.    If they refuse to follow the rules revoke their Annual Pass if they have one. Most of the sharks have Annual Passes and this would hit them hard as they would have to pay full price for pins and only get them at the Downtown Disney pin store.

In truth I don’t blame Disney for this problem I blame the people that are willing to pay the crazy prices for these pins on e-Bay. They are creating a market and a feeding the frenzy. They are encouraging this rude, disgraceful and un-Disney like behavior.

Thursday, August 30, 2012

The Official Disney Pin Site


The Official Disney Pin Site



If you collect pins you most likely know about the Official Disney Pin site. For those just getting into collecting Disney Pins here is the link:


I’m going to focus on the upcoming pin section and problems there. Here is the link:


In the upcoming section you should be able to see what pins are going to be released soon. It used to be they showed several months at a time and that was great because it helps you know what special Limited Edition pins will be out when you are going. It also helps if you are a local to the parks as you can plan your visits to purchase the LE special pins you wish. This is especially important with the highly prized pins such as the Piece of the Movie set. They PoM pins sell out within a few hours of park opening so if you want them you must get there at opening on the correct day.

Over the last few months the site has not been very well maintained. Now it seems the site is being kept just a couple of weeks to a month in advance, and even them it is not complete. There have been issues with wrong days being posted and release dates changing just days before the pin is to be released.

Policy on how to purchase the PoM pin changed at Disneyland and the information was on the site. Problem is on the main list page it gives the general info you need, date of release, what park it is being released at and the edition size are under a thumbnail picture of the pin. When Disneyland went to a wristband system for the release of the PoM that info was on the site but you had to click on the picture of the pin and pull up a second page to know that! There was nothing on the main page to show you that you needed to go to a second page for further information. They could easily put a banner on the picture of the pin letting you know to click for new instructions.

There is also another special set I love called the Lost Keys of Disneyland that is a beautiful and fun. It is a set of locks themed on six different attractions at DLR. The locks were sold in a set for a limited time (but not LE in edition). There are also six keys (LE 3000) to go with the locks that are being sold one every other month during 2012. These usually come out the first or third Thursday of the month and sell out by the late afternoon day of release. I purchased my locks at the beginning of the year. The information for the next Lost Key to Disneyland, Haunted Manson pin went up on the site on August 28th. It will be released on September 6th, 2012. What if I needed to adapt my work schedule to get this pin or make arrangements for someone to get it for me? No I don’t live for pins but it would be nice to be able to set up my schedule further in advance than 8 or 9 days!

I learned from writing to Disney about the lack of follow-through on the rules on the PoM pin that letters are read and do get a response. Letters to Disney can get Disney to change policies. I’ve written two letters about the poor updating on the Official Pin site. I know of others joined in and wrote things would be taken care of. If you use the site to find out information on pins and are frustrated at the way the site is not kept up to date write them! Hopefully they will go back to keeping the site updated and maybe even go back to keeping it a couple of months ahead on the pins release schedule. 

Monday, June 25, 2012

PIN SHARKS!! OH MY! What Can Disney Do to Help!?


PIN SHARKS!! OH MY! What Can Disney Do to Help!?




Over all my hubby and I love Disney Collectable trading pins. We don’t normally collect sets or go get picky about what people trade when trading with us. We go for the pins we like and it does not matter if they are Limited Edition or Open Edition. Does it make us smile or remember a special time? If so we want it!

Overall we do not trade with other adult guests. We choose to trade with Cast Members and children. Cast Members have a simple rule for trading. Pin for a pin period and it does not matter if it is Limited Edition or Open Edition. They limit it to two pins per person. We hold to the same pin for pin rule when we trade. If the pin is in our trading group of pins they can take it and give us any pin they want. If someone does not want to trade a pin we want for a pin we wish to give that is fine.

We like trading pins with children. Part of the reason we like trading with kids is we hope to keep them away from the “Pin Sharks” that would take a highly collectable pin the child may have and give them a pin of much lesser value or no real collectable value. The other reason we like doing it is we enjoy seeing their faces when they get a pin they like. If a child tries to give us a pin we know is of value for a lesser value pin we let them know and let the child and parent make the final decision to trade or not. We are not avid pin traders so we don’t always know.

If a child wants a pin my husband has but does not have a pin to trade my husband will send the child over to me telling them, “Tell my wife her husband needs a pin for trading.” I’ll give the child a pin and my husband will let the child either keep that pin or trade for any pin he has.

Now here is my problem. We have been helping a friend get a set of very limited edition pins that are being released one pin per month. We make a special trip to the park to get them. These pins are so treasured and limited in number that by the end of the day they are released the pins are gone. In fact now they are selling out within the first couple of hours the park is open. Disney limits the sale of the pins to two pins per person. That is great as there are not many of the pins. The problem is the pin sharks find their way past that rule and somehow purchase five or more pins. The Pin Sharks then turn around and sell the pins online for an outrageous profit.

A pin they purchase for $25 will be sold online for $50 in just a couple of hours. The price goes up from there. One pin I saw was going for $150 in just a couple of days. The pin sharks breaking the rules and purchasing more than allowed takes all the fun and simple pleasure out of collecting. They make it so we have to get to the park when the park first opens and run to the pin shop if we want just one pin.

One way the Pin Sharks get past the limit is by teaming up with others. One “friend” will stand in one line to purchase pins. When they are done they run to another shop where another friend is standing in another line. This way they can purchase pins at more than one store. They will run to as many shops as possible purchasing the limit at each shop.

There are ways for Disney to stop the Pin Sharks. One was is to stop selling pins at all. This is what happened at Disneyland Tokyo. They Pin Sharks were so aggressive there they eliminated pins all together.

There are other less drastic ways to handle the Pin Shark problem. One simple solution is linking all the cash registers. The majority of Pin Sharks are Annual Passholders and use their pass to save money on the purchase of the pins. A 10-20% discount is not to be ignored! The registers could inform the Cast Member the person was attempting to purchase more than the number of pins allowed and therefore allow the CM to uphold the policy.

Another way to stop the profiteering is to use the system they had at the Cars Land opening. If you wanted Limited Edition items you had to go to one location. You were only allowed to go in once. It was a very controlled situation. Once everybody that wanted had purchased the items the left overs were dispersed to other locations throughout the park. Limits were strictly adhered too. It was easy to make sure no one person got more than the limit.

I hope Disney will get a handle on this so the fun can return to pin trading and frustration be limited.

Saturday, March 3, 2012

Disney Pins, What to Collect


Disney Pins, What to Collect

I’m not a Pin Shark or even a real collector of those shiny little bobbles you can find to purchase or trade in the parks but I do have more than a few pins.

When I started my collection I asked my friend, who collects pins what should I collect. She laughed and told me to collect what I like. “Whatever strikes your fancy.” I believe were her exact words.

If you are just starting out collecting I suggest you start simply. Do you have a favorite character? Maybe it is a ride that interests you more than a character. Sometimes it is an event you that starts your interest. Whatever it is stick to that.

We started off collecting Tinker Bell pins. The feisty little pixie caught our attention and hearts. Then it was some special events. Christmas pins are beautiful and that was what we wanted. The Disney Cruise was the next type of pin we chose to collect. Again we don’t necessarily go for sets. We go for the pins that catch our eyes.

Our first “set” of pins was the Timon and Pumba ride safety pins. One pin was hard to find and we actually spent almost two years looking for it! The only way we could complete the pin set was looking at all the cast members that had lanyards on. Every time we saw a lanyard we would stop and look.

I’ll be honest, don’t go into collecting for making money or investment. That kills the fun. Enjoy the fun of trading. Enjoy making new friends as you trade pins. Here is one of the things that is most fun for us to do. I carry a little bag with a few pins. My husband will pull out his book to trade pins (he is the collector not me). I’ll stand back and watch. If a child comes up and wants a pin but has no pins to trade he will tell the child to, “Go to my wife and tell her that her husband needs a pin to trade.” If the child walks over I’ll give them a pin out of my bag. When the child goes back to my husband he thanks them and tells them they may either keep that pin or trade it for any pin in his book. This is what we enjoy doing the most.

Watch out for the pin sharks. Oh you don’t know what a pin shark is? You will usually find pin sharks sitting at tables or other areas that have been set up outside pin shops in the Disney Parks. They usually have books of pins to trade. Many of them “swim” together so you often find them in groups waiting to feed on the unsuspecting guppy trader. Pin sharks will look at your pins gaging if you have any pins they may sell on ebay to make money. They will gladly trade one of their lesser pins for your quality pin. Their goal is to collect as many of each limited release or highly sought after pin to limit it’s availability driving up cost. If it is not the money it is a obsessive need to collect and have what others may want.

The best way to avoid the pin sharks is to trade with the cast members that have pins. The rules for pin trading with cast members is simple. You may trade any pin you have for any pin they have. You can trade two pins with one cast member then you must move on to another cast member. You can return a few hours later to trade again if you wish. We usually only trade with cast members or kids.

Now here are the basic pin trading rules for inside a Disney location (park, cruise ship, resort or Disney Soda Fountain).

Trading with Guests

1.     When you see someone displaying pins on a hat, lanyard or in a book you are free to ask if they wish to trade.

2.    If someone you ask says they do not wish to trade then walk away.

3.    You may ask for any pin they say they are willing to trade. (Most people only display the pins they wish to trade.)

4.    They will ask what pins you have and ask for the pin they wish to have.

5.    At this point you or they may agree on the trade or either may say, “No thank you.” If the answer is no then move on. No one is required to trade and accept a pin they don’t want.

6.    You may make as many trades with another guest as they want to make.

Trading with Cast members

1.     Many cast members have pins to trade. They will display them in several ways.

a.    They may have a lanyard.

Black lanyard means the cast member trades those pins with any guest.

Teal/green means they only trade with children under age 12.

Red means they trade with anybody but they are a supervisor.

b.    They may be standing next to a frame display at of pins and they trade with anybody. These framed displays are usually only in the stores and at a few of the carts that sell pins around the parks.

2.    Unlike other guests a cast member must take whatever pin you wish to give in return for whatever pin you wish to have. (This is what we usually do. If we have a pin we don’t wish to trade we tuck in into a bag out of site while at the park. We don’t leave it in with the pins for trade.)

3.    You may trade 2 pins with a single cast member at one time. You can’t just keep coming back and cleaning out a single cast member for all the good pins they have.

You may be wondering how much it costs to pin trade or collect pins. It can get expensive. Pins at the shops in the parks can run from $7-25 each and higher for packaged sets. If someone you see trading has a pin you want and you don’t have a pin you can to a store and purchase a pin to trade. This works great for trading with cast members but sometimes other guests will refuse the pin you purchased as something they did not want. Another way to have pins to trade is find a shop or person that sells “traders” in bulk. You can get them for around $1-2 each depending on the seller and the number of pins you purchase at one time.

Here is the online store I usually go to when I need traders. He delivers them quickly and they are perfect for trading. He sells them in grab bags of 10, 20 or 50. The more  you purchase at one time the less expensive they are per pin.